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Re: Technical Templates

Postby Joe Whitehorse » Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:45 am

jcpfx wrote:first off I would like to thank you all for the patience and tolerance demonstrated towards me and my continuous errors.

You'll never encounter a problem on here with others showing you or anyone else the courtesy of patience & respect.
Everybody posting on this thread had to start somewhere, be it via the professional banking/institutional route or the exposure to retail forums route.

There are no experts or prima donna's on this thread which is both refreshing & welcoming, & what's more neither I or the other experienced guys here would stand for that kind of behavior & attitude.
Which translates to you asking & posting as many questions & repeat requests for clarification as you like & for as long as it takes for you begin putting together an approach (from the available information) that suits your intended strategy style & risk appetite.

You're not making continuous errors or misreading the content.
What you're doing is absorbing & filtering information.
Constructing a strategy to ensure it fits comfortably with your risk appetite, financial parameters & long term objectives takes time, effort & perseverance. It's a marathon, not a sprint & you're going to slip up along the way.....more than a few times.

As long as what you're studying & practicing makes sense to you, is logical in its application & sits comfortably with your style of preparation & execution then all well & good.
Unfortunately, the speed of progress (if at all) will be very much dependent upon the individual's internal hard drive & no-one but that individual can determine whether they'll succeed long term or not.
jcpfx wrote:So boiling everything down to a minimum, is the name of the game to identify these likely inflection points, wait for price to show signs of stalling or signs of pushing through them, and once we have signs flip onto a shorter tf and pull the trigger with a hook or 1-2-3?
Reason being, I like the feeling of playing the levels, it feels right to focus on the market structure.
But in my trading I have failed to tie this in with the trend and/or understand the right moment to step in.

The framework & structure presented here (& by Tess, Andre & their colleagues) is just that jcp, a foundational base.
It can be utilized, tweaked & molded to suit the individuals personal objectives & risk appetite.

For beginners or those less experienced in trading financial markets, the recommendation is to familiarize oneself with the slower, less stressful method of trend following, & that is presented & demonstrated primarily for the benefit of that sector of the thread participant.
However, not everyone wants to major on that type of preparation or execution style, therefore they can adopt other more aggressive styles & use the core elements of the structure to operate via a slightly different style.

It's the individual's choice.
But in our experience we've found the vast majority of new participants fail dismally when attempting to execute that aggressive style consistently via an intraday approach. The main resons being a lack of experience, undercapitalized accounts & poor instrument selection & decision making.
That's the main reason we try to encourage folks to take their time, become familiar with the straightforward template first & begin to strengthen their patience & discipline skills.

Once they've become comfortable with the generic workings of the structure & developed their discipline, patience & market awreness skills, they're usually better prepared to introduce other styles or areas of preference.
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Postby jcpfx » Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:43 am

Welcome back Joe,

hope you had a pleasent holiday season :-)

Thank you for once more stepping into the discussion. While I may think I understand what you're saying, I may also have been unable to fully put it into practice up to this point. During the holidays I studied a fair amount, went through charts, interacted with forum members and received guidance every time...

Simply put, I am going to follow the advice of stepping back, calming down and working through the process as I may have unintentionally complicated it for "my style" - whatever it will turn out to be.

Thanks again :-)
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Re: Technical Templates

Postby Eidriel » Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:22 am

Hi everyone,

I am currently very interested on reading up about market and price action psychology/sentiment.

Do you guys know of any good websites or books where I can read up on those?

Thanks a lot!
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Re: Technical Templates

Postby kyle morgan » Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:17 am

I was recommended to this guy by Jimmy a while back when I was enquiring about a similar subject Eidriel.
Tess & SeanP rate him very highly too, which is good enough for me.

The video on Exploiting Order Flow & Liquidation is particularly interesting & informative.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQwFOxOq ... bZaTRh-2nQ
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Re: Technical Templates

Postby Eidriel » Sun Jan 13, 2013 1:20 am

Thank you kyle. I will definitely check that out ! :)

Are there any other recommendations guys? :D
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Re: Technical Templates

Postby Carll » Sun Jan 13, 2013 6:06 am

To be honest Eidriel there's virtually no real quality stuff out there addressing that particular topic.
What I thought I knew about that subject got blown to bits as soon as I began working closely with Tess, Sean & their colleagues.

The few articles there are dotted around the web are usually bait hooks for book salesmen, subscription webinar/course peddlers & theory experts. But that's the case with most mass produced material.
What exactly are you seeking that can't be interpreted by using the stuff on here in tandem with price observation at key levels?
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Re: Technical Templates

Postby Eidriel » Sun Jan 13, 2013 6:37 am

Hello Carll!

Thanks for the reply. I am actually pretty familiar with the rules presented here in making high probability trades, ie. trading with the trend, cycles, at key S/R zones, round numbers.

But I am pretty interested in reading up about the psychology behind these price actions. Like why does price actually behave in this cyclical fashion, whats the significance behind key S/R zones, and what exactly are the "Big Fish" thinking when going about their trades.

Thought would be pretty interesting to read up on those :)

Haha, I am aware of the large amount of junk that we can find on the internet, which is why I thought it would be a good idea to seek for recommendations here, as I know that the people on this thread are realistic and sincere in helping others! :D

kyle, I have watched the video which you posted here, and it was really a good watch :) Thanks! It sure puts some logic into the cyclical behavior of price.
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Re: Technical Templates

Postby JimmyMac » Sun Jan 13, 2013 11:47 am

Eidriel wrote:I am pretty interested in reading up about the psychology behind these price actions.
Like why does price actually behave in this cyclical fashion, whats the significance behind key S/R zones, and what exactly are the "Big Fish" thinking when going about their trades.

Most of the intraday activity these days (even more so since the uptick in high frequency algorithms) revolves around stop hunting.
The average ranges have contracted noticeably over the past 5 or 6 years & it's rare for price to extend much beyond 100% of its 1-3 month ADR.
The only times that will usually happen is if price breaks out of tight ranges lasting a few days and/or the market is awaiting a key item of data or a change/addition to some significant fundamental development.

Cycle activity is mostly the result of liquidation, usually stops getting tripped & reverse orders coming into play.
If you've watched that video kyle recommended then you'll already have a pretty good read on why the price action consistently makes those footprints & what the major cause is.
The market is constantly processing, pricing in & filtering order flow. That flow will be changing every minute based on the myriad of agenda's & objectives being worked by market participants.

You can't really pigeon hole or bundle a particular sector of the market together & assume they're all looking to achieve a common objective at the same time. For instance, there's a lot of comical chatter out there about "smart money" doing this or that & banks or hedge fund money orchestrating price at this level or that level.
Most of it is fantasy theory & nonsense.

The primary reason price moves from one level to another (& either continues to get supported on its journey or not) is simply because the stronger order flow on that side of the market is overwhelming the weaker flow on the other side – nothing more complicated or mysterious than that.
And it won't dissipate, consolidate or reverse until the last buyer or seller cashes out & exits the market, & the reasons for that will be varied.
Stale orders & profit objectives will be exiting the market
Fresh orders (on both sides of the market) will be entering the liquidity pool
Partial closures & pyramid size will be layering into the order book.

Certain levels, zones & areas react & respond more efficiently than others purely because enough activity is congregating on & around it.
Don't lose sight of how & why price is orchestrated in the first place.

Humans are responsible for price action regardless whether it's influenced via machines or not.
Someone still has to program, tweak/adjust & refine the engines of those algo's – they don't perform those tasks themselves, well not yet anyhow.
And humans are creatures of habit. They also like to target & aim for common junctures (or certainly levels & zones where they think others will be congregating), which also goes a long way to explaining why you're able to sometimes identify clear, previously reactive areas going back days, weeks & months.
Also remember, in order for a winning trade to become realized that order has to be matched against a losing trade & these common reaction (S&R) zones contain the necessary liquidity via the mixture of orders to facilitae that transaction.

There's very little mystery to the price action puzzle. Neither is there a conspiracy by certain sectors of the market to gang up on & mug other sectors, certainly not in the spot FX market because it's far too big & diverse.

Logical common sense, a very good grasp & awareness of risk management + a solid yet very simplistic technical structural approach that takes advantage of very specific, consistent set up opportunities will get you over most of the hurdles presented during a typical business week.
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Re: Technical Templates

Postby Eidriel » Sun Jan 13, 2013 1:27 pm

That certainly sums it all up. Thanks Jimmy :)

It was an interesting read, and it definitely put more understanding on price action behavior we see on the charts. Hopefully it helps the other observers understand the concepts taught here as well!
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Jan 16th

Postby jcpfx » Wed Jan 16, 2013 5:35 am

Good Morning to all,

it seems like staying nimble is still the name of the game out there... the Jpy has been leading the way yesterday & this morning but the more it falls into prior support, the more the odds favor a retrace. Bias is shifting in my view so if we bounce on UsdJpy I'll be looking for shorts in the 88.80s.

My main focus this morning is EurUsd as yesterday's low is holding even though EurJpy was pushed below. Teh whole 1.3250/80 support zone is still in play and Bias is still to the upside on my charts so I'm currently looking for the recent low at 3260 to hold and print a 15min 1-2-3 pointing towards 3330 which is my principal target.

I missed the long on EurUsd yesterday morning off the prior day's low print, but caught the GbpUsd bounce last night from lows to highs.

Hoping to work as well today as I did yesterday.

Good Luck!
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